Rockets and the Globe II with Special Guest Gravity

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I want to preface this post with an observation.  The Copernicans have had 500 years to develop their helio-centric model.  It is composed of mountainous volumes of sophisticated language and formulas based on a premise.  If you don’t understand the language it is difficult to argue with.  So Biblical-earthers are at a slight disadvantage in terms of debate but things are rapidly changing.  It is much similar to the creation-evolution debate in that it took a little while for Creation Science to catch up on all the so-called evidence of evolution.  Now, it is obvious that evolution is absurd.  That’s because the premise has been debunked and that makes all of their so-called evidence nonsense. 

As a case study, let’s take gravity.  I submit that gravity only makes sense if you accept the notion that the earth is a spinning ball floating in a vacuum with an atmosphere being kept securely around it.  In other words, gravity had to be thought up in order to explain why the atmosphere (and everything else) doesn’t get sucked out into the unbelievably powerful vacuum of space.  Remember, nature abhors a vacuum.   The earth, we are told, has just the right amount of size and density to exert the gravitational force necessary to hold everything to it including the molecules of the atmosphere.  Somehow mass and density create the magical power called gravity.

There are all kinds of human agencies that have been built and organized to validate the premise.  These agencies and organizations include NASA and other nation’s ‘space programs’.  Billions of dollars are being poured into these organizations.  The general public sees rockets being shot into the air.  Ergo, space exists and the earth is spinning through it.  

The number of people that recognize the Biblical earth model as the truth is growing at break-neck speed.  The first ever international conference was held in North Carolina this past November and tickets sold out quickly.  You can find video of the speakers on youtube or flatearthbible.com.   It is an awakening unlike no other in history.  The passage that comes to mind is Luke 8:17:

“For nothing is hidden that shall not become evident, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light.”

I believe that we are living in a time where God is exposing and revealing as never before.  I find it not coincidental that, as the spread of the notion of intelligent life in outer space is accelerating in the mainstream, right alongside of it is the realization by millions that the earth has no curve and the sun and moon move in circuits above the plane.   These millions are recognizing that what the Bible says is true of creation, namely that the earth is a flat plane with a transparent or translucent hard dome firmament over it, and all of it is fixed and immovable except the stars within the firmament.   The earth is it, there is no space.  There is the earth, the firmament and the 3rd heaven above it.   This is Biblical cosmology.

We who are recognizing this may not have the grasp of the math equations that support a ball earth theory but we do have common sense and we do have eyes to see.  In this venue I have no desire to try and argue each issue within the scope of the grand debate.  It would take too long.  But there is an argument for each issue such as satellites, all the people in on the hoax, ships going ‘below the horizon’, alleged photos of the earth from space, etc., etc., etc.  There is much evidence to refute all of the helio-centric claims and each person must do the research for themselves.  And here is the thing – you have to be genuinely open to receive truth, whatever the truth is.  It’s a lot like the Gospel of salvation.  If you don’t want to see it, you won’t.

If you accept the spinning globe earth premise, then gravity and all of the equations and formulas make sense. 

I was presented with additional information about how the spinning earth provides momentum to a rocket leaving earth’s atmosphere in the spinning earth model.  To wit:  it is the atmosphere of the earth that provides the ‘push’.  The atmosphere, in this conjecture, is moving in sync with the spin of the earth and at some point when the rocket leaves the atmosphere it is shot out by the 1000 mph atmospheric force (which is how fast the earth is supposed to be spinning on an axis) into space.

So, according to more ‘intelligent sources’ and ‘experts’, we are supposed to believe that the atmosphere is moving at 1000 mph hand in hand with the spinning land below.  This happens because of the mysterious force of gravity.  This gravity not only keeps the atmosphere from being sucked out into the incredibly powerful vacuum of space (which does not exist), it also keeps it locked in synch with the motion of the earth.  Let’s examine this idea. 

The atmosphere moves west to east with the motion of the spinning earth, we are told.  And it moves in perfect synchrony with the earth, so much so we can’t tell that we are moving.   I have no idea how to calculate it but there must be an enormous amount of centrifugal force being exerted that could send everything flying if it were not for the miraculous gravity.   So not only is there the vacuum of space pulling at the atmosphere, there is centrifugal force also pulling on everything on the surface of the earth and above, due to the spin.   Centripetal force is the ‘equal and opposite force’ of centrifugal that keeps an object or substance spinning in a circle with the center of the spinning object.

The atmosphere must experience both forces under the spinning earth theory.  If you were to take a hand blender and stick it in some soup, you would notice the soup closest to the blender blades would be moving faster in the direction of the blades than soup farther from the center of the blade.  The farther away from the vortex, the slower the soup would be moving in a circle.  The same characteristics would be expected with the atmosphere circling with the motion of the earth.  It would not be in perfect synch from inside-out with regard to the atmosphere.  But it would be moving with constant speed inside-out.  The farthest reach of the atmosphere would be traveling much slower than near the earth. 

Now, consider also that the farther out you go from earth, the thinner the air becomes.  So not only is the air going much slower than the spin of the earth, there is less and less of it.  Yet, we are to accept that a rocket gets so much more thrust and boost from being propelled by the speed of the atmosphere!

It just doesn’t bear up under logical scrutiny.

Consider, too, that weather moves generally from west to east.  How is this possible with the earth spinning west to east – the same direction?  Think about this for a few minutes!!  Weather would actually be moving against the atmosphere and faster than the motion of the earth!

The whole idea that we are spinning at 1000 mph and the atmosphere with it, yet we can not feel or sense this, is ludicrous on it’s face.  

It is fascinating what cognitive dissonance can do to a mind.  You really have to suspend logic and common sense to accept this stuff from NASA.  Sometimes all you have to do is a little thinking.  See my other posts under Bible Cosmology.

Dan Baker

Rockets and the Spinning Globe

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NASA says that rockets are launched eastward with the spin of the earth in order for the rocket to get a boost from the spin.  In other words, they say that the spin of the earth gives the launched vehicle greater momentum and thrust into space.    This allows the rocket to save fuel, they say.  You can see the NASA explanation at this link.

Then why would that not apply to jets and planes?  NASA says the spin affects the velocity and momentum of the rocket as it flies through the atmosphere and into space.  Therefore the spin should have the same affect with planes and jets as they take off. 

For example, if a plane takes off at the equator from east to west, the spin of the earth being against the take off, the plane would have the opposite experience.  The plane would have an earth spinning 1000 MPH (approx.) against it.  That would mean that the plane that takes off at 250 mph would have a net speed of 1250 mph at take-off.  Then, when it reaches cruising speed at say 500 mph, it’s speed would be a net 1500 mph over the surface of the earth.   This means that a plane traveling from east to west, against the spin, would be able to travel 3000 miles in 2 hours (New York to Los Angeles). 

If it travels the opposite direction at a maximum speed of 500 mph, it would not reach New York (pretending New York and LA are on the equator) until the earth rotated one full rotation and New York actually came from behind the plane below on it’s axis.   The speed of the rotating earth would be twice that of the plane.

NASA can’t have it’s physics work two different ways.

Either the spin of the earth is negative with regard to launched and flying vehicles or it is positive.  If it affects the launch of the rocket then it must also affect the launch and flight of planes and jets as they travel the skies. 

The problem is that a plane that leaves St. Louis for Kansas City will arrive the same time as a plane traveling from Kansas City to St. Louis if they fly at the same speed.  That is not possible, according to NASA, on a spinning globe earth.   But it is on a Biblical earth.

Dan Baker

The First Resurrection

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“The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed.  This is the first resurrection.”  Revelation 20:5

I watched a video that was sent to me by a friend who asked me my thoughts about it.  It was a teaching by a minister named David Asscherick.  He has a very hyper-frenetic style of preaching that was hard to listen to.  But that aside, his topic was the Millennial Kingdom – it’s description and nature.   He made quite a few incorrect assertions but the one I’m going to focus on is that there will be no living mortals during the Millennial period.

His basis for saying that there will be no living people is the verse above.  He said all of the righteous (ever) will be resurrected at Jesus’s return, and all of the believers who are alive at that time (who survive the Tribulation) will be ‘translated’ up to meet Jesus in the air.    This is not true.

He also said all of the wicked who are alive at His return will be slain.  This much is true (Rev. 19:15, 21).

What Asscherick did was declare that the resurrection in Rev. 20:5 is the same resurrection as 1 Thess. 4:14.  This is something many Christians make the mistake of doing.  He based that on the fact that Rev. 20: 5 says it is the ‘first’ resurrection, therefore it has to be the same resurrection as 1 Thess. 4:14.  It follows, he asserts, that all of the righteous will be glorified and all the wicked will be dead, and thus there will be no mortal living beings during the Millennial.

To boil it down, Asscherick is saying that the rapture happens at Jesus’ return to earth (post-trib rapture).   According to Asscherik, right before Jesus lands on the Mount of Olives all of the dead in Christ are raised and those believers who are alive at that moment are ‘translated’ or raptured, and meet the Lord in the air (and then do an immediate U-turn to follow Christ to earth).

The problem, however, is that Asscherick completely skipped over Rev. 20:4:

“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them.  And I saw the souls of THOSE WHO HAD BEEN BEHEADED BECAUSE OF THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS and because of the Word of God, and THOSE WHO HAD NOT WORSHIPPED THE BEAST OR HIS IMAGE, AND HAD NOT RECEIVED THE MARK UPON THEIR FOREHEAD AND UPON THEIR HAND;  and THEY CAME TO LIFE and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”

This verse makes perfectly clear that the ‘first’ resurrection stated in verse 5 is the resurrection of the righteous who die during the tribulation (Rev. 6:9; 13:12-17; 14:9-11).  All he had to do was look at the cross references in the margin of his Bible.

The context determines the meaning of ‘first resurrection’.

The resurrection in Revelation 20:4-5  is not the first resurrection EVER, it is the first resurrection in the context of the 2nd coming of Christ right before the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom.  Clearly this is not the first resurrection.  The first resurrection was Jesus Christ!  So the context must define the statement.  The second resurrection in this context is the resurrection of the unsaved dead (those whose names are not in the Book of Life) at the end of the Millennial Kingdom (Rev. 20:13).

He also completely overlooks Rev. 20:7-8 with regard to no living mortals during the Millennial Kingdom.  These verses clearly point out that there will be ‘nations’ all over the earth whom Satan tempt and gather for war when he is released at the end of the 1000 years.  Asscherik’s explanation for this is that these people are the wicked who are raised from the dead in Rev. 20:12-13.  The problem is that this resurrection takes place AFTER Satan’s brief uprising.

It’s always amazing how doctrines and teachings can come about by taking things out of their proper context or chronological order.

See also my post ‘Eternal Torment or Eternal Destruction‘.

Dan Baker

Jerusalem

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Jerusalem

“Behold, I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that causes reeling to all the people around; and when the siege is against Jerusalem, it will also be against Judah.  And it will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured.  And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.”  –Zechariah 12:2-3

Today I watched with amazement President Trump’s press conference where he declared that the United States formally recognizes Jerusalem to be  Israel’s capital, and will move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.  It truly is a historic moment.

It is also a relevant moment in terms of Bible prophecy.

Now, I am not saying that this move by the President specifically fulfills Zechariah 12.  In fact, it does not.  Zechariah 12 is referring to a time immediately preceding the return of Jesus – this is the context of the passage.  It is talking about a time when all the surrounding nations and more will attack Jerusalem to destroy it.  You must continue reading the chapter through the next 2 chapters.

Zechariah 12:3 says all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it and God himself will save Israel (vs. 12:7-9).  Then Israel will ‘look upon Him who they have pierced and they will mourn’ (12:10). 

Who will they mourn? 

It is Jesus who has returned to earth to save the remnant.  (see my posts “The Gog-Magog War IS Armageddon” and “Every Eye Will See Him“) 

They will see Him and mourn over him as He is coming in the clouds.  They will mourn because they realize He is the Messiah whom they crucified. 

But many will also cry out ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord’, as Jesus prophesied when He told Israel they would not seem Him again until they recognize Him (Matthew 23:39). 

Zechariah 14 elaborates on this event. 

God will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured.  But Jesus will ‘go forth’ and fight against those nations as His feet set down on the Mount of Olives and He will be victorious.  Thus He will begin the 1000 year reign of the Millennial Kingdom. 

So this is the context of Jerusalem being a ‘cup that causes reeling’ to the whole world.  What we are witnessing is not the precise fulfillment of Zechariah 12.  What we are witnessing is a foreshadowing of what is coming.

“The whole world is against it.”  …Turkish Prime Minister

This quote from the Turkish Prime Minister referring to President Trump’s  declaration may be a bit of an overstatement, but it illustrates the level of consternation in the world as a result of the President’s move. No doubt there will be uprising and increased violence in the region as a result.  It is also safe to say that the world in general holds a great deal of animosity towards Israel and that it is going to increase as we draw closer to the Day of the Lord. 

The President’s move to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and re-locate the embassy is good and right.  It should have been done a long time ago.  But God has ordained it to take place now, or at least declare it now. 

God continues to signal that time is growing short.   Israel will continue to be the focal point.   Maranatha.